Episodes

Tuesday Jun 18, 2024
Holy Roast Annual Conference Special
Tuesday Jun 18, 2024
Tuesday Jun 18, 2024
Welcome to our Holy Roast Annual Conference Special! This recording is our special bonus episode, Live from Annual Conference, where Rachel and Rob sat down with Rev. Caleb Wheat.
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Rev. Caleb Wheat. Caleb is the Pastor at Antioch UMC, a new church start in Northern Kentucky. In this episode, Caleb will talk about his call to church planting, the story of Antioch UMC, some initiatives throughout the Kentucky Conference, and what every local church should be doing in this season.

Monday Jun 03, 2024
Holy Roast Season Finale
Monday Jun 03, 2024
Monday Jun 03, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Rev. Tami Coleman and Rev. Dr. Jay Smith to talk about General Conference. Tami was our lead Clergy Delegate (and the Pastor at Hanson UMC) and Jay was a Clergy Alternate Delegate (and the District Superintendent of the Owensboro District.) In this episode, Tami and Jay will talk about their experience at General Conference. They will talk about how it felt to be in the room during GC, what gives them hope for the future of the UMC, the biggest questions they’ve received from Kentucky United Methodists about GC since returning him, how to worship and get along with people who may not agree with us on important subject matters, and more.
This podcast is for Traditionalists, Centrists, and Progressives in the Kentucky Annual Conference. If you found the episode to be helpful, please be sure to share with with other pastors, church members, and friends.

Monday Apr 29, 2024
S1E11: Rachel Gilmore
Monday Apr 29, 2024
Monday Apr 29, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Rev. Rachel Gilmore. Rachel is the Director of New and Vital Faith in the Desert Southwest Conference of the UMC.
Rachel graduated magna cum laude from Duke Divinity School as a Distinguished Leader after serving for two years in the Peace Corps in Bulgaria. She is the author of Expanding the Expedition Reach with Missional Communities and a contributor to Launching a New Worship Community: a Practical Guide for the 2020s (Upper Room, 2021). Rachel is married to Rev. Brandon Gilmore, a pastor at Central United Methodist Church in Phoenix, Arizona where they are creating a new faith community while revitalizing the existing congregation.
In this episode, Rachel talks about the common myths about church planting, how to measure the impact and effectiveness of churches including church plants, how all local churches need to be church innovators, how to overcome the challenges of fostering community in our current social context, best practices that churches can take to reach new people in their community, and some current trends in church planting that she finds promising.

Monday Apr 15, 2024
S1E10 - Will Willimon
Monday Apr 15, 2024
Monday Apr 15, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Bishop Will Willimon. The Reverend Dr. William H. Willimon **is Professor of the Practice of Christian Ministry at the Divinity School, Duke University. He served eight years as Bishop of the North Alabama Conference of The United Methodist Church. For twenty years prior to the episcopacy, he was Dean of the Chapel and Professor of Christian Ministry at Duke University, Durham, North Carolina. Dr. Willimon is a graduate of Wofford College (B.A., 1968), Yale Divinity School (M.Div., 1971) and Emory University (S.T.D., 1973). He is the author of roughly one hundred books. Willimon’s articles have appeared in many publications.
In this episode, Bishop Willimon discusses his hopes for what will happen at General Conference, his dream for the future of the UMC, how pastors can create change in a denomination that is often slow to adapt, the role of the Bishop in the UMC, pressing challenges the UMC is facing today, and advice he would give to young people.
To learn more about Bishop Will Willimon, you can head to his website here: https://willwillimon.com/.

Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
S1E09 - Jean Hawxhurst
Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Rev. Dr. Jean Hawxhurst. Rev. Dr. Jean G. Hawxhurst serves as an Ecumenical Staff Officer for the United Methodist Council of Bishops. Her responsibilities include general ecumenical engagement with organizations and groups, grants and scholarships, and leadership development. She has served in this ministry position since 2015. Dr. Hawxhurst holds a BA degree in mathematics and education from the University of Richmond, an MDiv degree in theology from Lexington Theological Seminary, and a DMin degree from Louisville Seminary, with a focus on theological diversity. She also holds a certificate in ecumenical studies from the World Council of Churches Ecumenical Institute at Bossey. She is an ordained elder in the Kentucky Annual Conference, and prior to this appointment served three local congregations and as a District Superintendent. She is married to Rev. Dr. Jerry Cappel, a priest in The Episcopal Church USA. They have two adult children and four grandchildren.
In this episode, Rev. Dr. Jean Hawxhurst reflects upon her calling in her current role, how she has met two different Popes, how she navigates theological differences between various Christian traditions, the evolving role of pastors in an ecumenical future, challenges she has faced, and some helpful ways that local churches and pastors can embrace ecumenism and foster greater unity among Christians of different denominations.

Monday Mar 18, 2024
S1E08 - Kate Bowler
Monday Mar 18, 2024
Monday Mar 18, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Dr. Kate Bowler*.* Kate Bowler, Ph.D. is a 4x New York Times bestselling author, award-winning podcast host, and professor at Duke University. She hosts the Everything Happens podcast where, in warm, insightful, often funny conversations, she talks with people like Malcolm Gladwell, Tig Notaro, and Archbishop Justin Welby about what they’ve learned in difficult times. Author of seven books including Good Enough, The Lives We Actually Have, and her latest, Have a Beautiful, Terrible Day!, she lives in Durham, North Carolina, with her family and continues to teach do-gooders at Duke Divinity School.
In this episode, Dr. Bowler talks about what history can teach us in this particular cultural moment in the church, what to do when things don’t go our way in ministry, the effects of toxic positivity in the church, and the hope she has for the future of the church.

Monday Mar 04, 2024
S1E07 - Leigh Ann Maynard
Monday Mar 04, 2024
Monday Mar 04, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Rev. Leigh Ann Maynard. Rev. Leigh Ann is the Associate Pastor for Bridge Ministries at Christ Church United Methodist in Louisville, KY.
In this episode, Leigh Ann will reflect with Rachel and Rob on what it means to be a woman in ministry. Leigh Ann will discuss her call to ministry, ridiculous things said to female clergy, unique gifts that female leaders can offer the local church right now, and how local churches and leaders can empower female disciples.
Are you sensing a call to ministry? We’d love to connect you to resources to help you discern that call! Email us at holyroast@kyumc.org.
Holy Roast will be LIVE at Annual Conference this June! Join us Sunday, June 9, 5pm, at the Marriott Hotel in Northern Kentucky for a live recording of the Holy Roast Podcast. Be on the look out to reserve your seat! (Space is limited!)

Monday Feb 19, 2024
Holy Roast Podcast S1E06 -Jemar Tisby
Monday Feb 19, 2024
Monday Feb 19, 2024
In this week’s episode, Rob and Rachel sit down with Dr. Jemar Tisby. Jemar Tisby (BA, University of Notre Dame; MDiv, Reformed Theological Seminary) is the New York Times bestselling author of “The Color of Compromise” and the award-winning “How to Fight Racism.” He is a historian who studies race, religion, and social movements, and serves as a professor at Simmons College of Kentucky, a historically Black college.
In this episode, Dr. Tisby reflects upon what motivated him to write, “The Color of Compromise,” the historical complicity of the church in racial injustice, the role he’d like to see the church play in the ongoing struggle for racial justice, and what faith leaders in predominately white churches can do to fight racism.
All things Dr. Jemar Tisby can be found at https://jemartisby.com/.

To Encourage and Equip the Local Church
“Holy Roast” is a new podcast sponsored by the Ministerial Services Operational Team. Co-Hosts Rachel Wallace (MSOT Member & Lead Pastor at Revolution UMC) and Rob Tucker (MSOT Member & Lead Pastor at Watkins UMC) will serve up a piping hot blend of wisdom, insight, and inspiration for pastors and church leaders.
Twice a month, Rachel and Rob will engage in heartfelt discussions, offer practical advice, and share real-life stories from their own journeys in ministry. They will also be interviewing pastors, church leaders, and experts in the field both within/outside of the Kentucky Conference to provide fresh insights and guidance to their listeners. It’s the encouragement we all need on a Monday morning to keep going. "Holy Roast" will leave you feeling inspired, rejuvenated, and equipped to lead your congregation with faith, grace, and a little humor.
So grab your favorite brew, pull up a chair, and join Pastors Rachel and Rob for a spirited conversation that's both deeply theological and downright down-to-earth. It's time for some "Holy Roast!"